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Echeveria derenbergii cf butterfly with similar common name

by AndyAmphlett » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:13 pm

Hi Tom,

There are 166 records of Echeveria derenbergii = Painted-lady (the plant) on the DDb. 164 of these records (from 125 hectads) are from Indicia - ... 63c9df51e1. Looking at a sample of these records they appear to all have been entered as 'Painted-lady', meaning Vanessa cardui = Painted Lady (the butterfly)! Indeed there are several nice photos of the butterfly attached to some of the records eg. ... nchstamp=0.

Clement & Foster (Alien Plants published 1994) list the plant as a rare casual escape ), with 1 - 4 post 1930 sites. I have not investigated the two non-Indicia records, but I am pretty sure all the other records are errors. iRecord has entries for both the plant and butterfly in its taxon dictionary, so I am not sure how the error has crept in. Can the records be removed?

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Re: Echeveria derenbergii cf butterfly with similar common n

by admin » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:43 pm

Hi Andy,

Thanks for spotting this.

I've deleted the ex-Indicia Echeveria derenbergii records from the DDb and filed an iRecord bug to report the issue: ... issues/719
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